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Performance
How to read performance results
We found Mark van Waaijenburg willing to test the car for the 2008
season.
Mark is a driver who is getting better every year in the 1:8 scale buggy and
truggy scene in Holland.
He finished on the 3th place in the 2007 Brother Cup series which is the Dutch
Championship.

So please be patient for his comments on the car.
Hi,
Before we started driving we tested the King Headz part we got and compared
them weight wise.
This is the result:
PART ASSOCIATED KING HEADZ
WEIGHT DIFFERENCE
Arm mount A
15,17gr 5.09gr -10,08gr
Arm mount B 12,58gr
6.02gr -6,56gr
Arm mount C 15,73gr
6,75gr -8,98gr
Arm mount
D 16,53gr 8.60gr
-7,93gr
Upper top plate
8,65gr 14,10gr +5.45gr
Steering rack 5,22gr
7,18gr +1,96gr
Motor mount 25,19gr
42,70gr +17,51gr (incl. hardware)
Steering knuckels 28,74gr 27,52gr -1,22gr
(2 pieces)
Center diff. top
plate 5.98gr 7,65gr +1,67gr
(incl. bushings /bearings)
Front shock
tower 14,95gr 22,56gr +7,61gr
Rear shock
tower 19,71gr 30,47gr +10,76gr
Front chassis brace
9,84gr 8,79gr -1.05gr
Rear chassis brace 11,76gr
11,55gr -0,21gr
Servo saver posts 13,50 gr
4,6gr -8,90gr (2 pieces)
total + 44,96gr
total - 44.93gr
total weight difference + 0,03gr
So if you hop up the car fully with King Headz parts you still are on the
same weight as with the original car.
So now some performance things.
Race Holland- Germany
The first race of the year is over.
The location was the astro turf track in
Purmerend.
The race was held under wet conditions.
On Saturday the weather was good but on Sunday
morning the rain was falling heavy for 2 hours.
There were about 70 drivers from the 70 about 25
Dutch .
It was my first really race with the RC8 and I
can say I like it very much.
The first thing I noticed was the huge amount of
steer the car gives.
How the car will hold up during the season I
don't know but till so far the only thing I broke was a fuel tank after a
heavy head on crash with another driver.
Then the race itself.
I did not really liked the set-up during
qualifying .
Because there were a lot of drivers I did not do
a lot of driving on the Saturday.
After some changes I qualified at the 15th place
so I had to drive the 1/4 final.
The track in Purmerend has a complete new
lay-out so I cannot compare the lap times to last year with my kyosho.
The 1/4 final went very well and I bumped up to
the the semi final.
The first half of the semi was very good for me
but in the second half of the final I lost some places so I was not able to
bump in the final.
Here is the set-up of the car as I ran it in the
finals
FRONT MIDDLE REAR
camber
-2 deg. -3 deg.
toe out 1
deg. in 2.5 deg.
anti sqad bushing
2 up
kick up bushing 2 up
hinge pin bushing 2 down
diff. STD
7000 STD 5000 STD 1000
shocks Hong Nor super
big bores 16 mm
spring 400
400
piston
6x1.4 6x1.4
springs Hong Nor
Chrome Hong Nor Chrome
arms in
in
tower
middle middle
steering rack middle
anti rol bar
2.5 2.5
caster 14 deg.
clutch RMV speed 2.5
teflon
bell 16 t
tires Hong Nor
type unknown
hello
here is an
other report about race 2 and 3 from the brothercup
race 2
location:
Oberhausen Germany.
The track
layout was (like in Purmerend) complete new for this race.
For this weekend there were two races at the same time planned the
Brothercup and SM lauf
that means
there were more than 100 drivers.
So on Saturday there was practice with name tags.
This system works very well with this amount of drivers.
I did about 5 rounds of practice on the Saturday each round was 10 minutes.
My main concern on the Saturday was to get enough steer (grip) as the track
was dusty and very hard (clay).
On
Sunday the race started early because we and the SM lauf hat to qualify and
run the finals.
Qualifying went well and I qualified in the half final.
The half final also went well and I was in the main final.
That main final started and everything was OK
But during the final I lost grip more and more.
The tires were getting worse and worse I was using the Pro line bow-tie with
the m3 compound.
It seemed that that was the wrong choice (the winner was running the xtr
compound).
At the end I finished 3 in the Brothercup.
A good result after all.
There was
not much that I did change on the set-up.
I used 14 degr. camber and I went thinner in the front shock oil to get more
steer.
race 3
The third
race was planned at mach-one in Helmond but they had to leave there old
track and are mow building a new track at another location.
Because of the bad weather last months they were not able to get the track
ready in time.
so we went to Purmerend again for this race.
Saturday was a very wet day and the forecasts for Sunday were very good but
because of the rain I did not do a lot of driving.
I put 3000 in the rear diff but after a few rounds of practice I changed it
back to 1000 this worked better for me.
One negative thing I found was that the rear king headz toe in plate was
completely worn out there was a lot of friction on the rear lower arms.
So I hat to use the 2.5 degr. plate instead of the 3 degr. One.
I made a lot of mistakes during the qualifying and ended at the 9th place,
good for a half final.
Half final I had some problems to but I got to the main final.
During the start everyone was fighting for a good place after the first
round and I settled on the 5th place.
During the final I lost more and more steer, I thought I had an empty or
broke receiver pack after getting in the pit and a closer inspection it
seemed that the servo saver nut was loosened.
End of the
final for me.
I ended at
the 9 th place.
Next
race will be in Germany Warbeyen in the weekend from
Race 4 Warbeyen Germany.
7-8 June
I was not able to come to this race on
Saturday so I did no testing or practice at al.
The track is again a complete new astro turf
track.
There was also no possibility to practice on
Sunday for the race.
After some first rounds it became clear that
it was a very bumpy track.
This was a problem I kept fighting al day.
After the first qualifying I noticed that
there was a lot of slack on my rear suspension arms.
After inspection it seem that my king headz
D-plate was the problem.
The holes for the hinge pins were completely
worn out.
I had to replace the D-plate for another one
instead of 3dgr. I was now forced to use a 2.5dgr. one.
I am not happy with the D-plate and thinking
to use the stock ones or a set from another supplier.
I qualified in the 1/4 final and was able to
bump in the semi.
In the semi final I had a problem a lot of
drivers have these days an overheating futaba fastt receiver.
So that was the end for me that weekend.
After all I do not think I would have been
able to bump into the final.
The set-up (and also me) were not good
enough that weekend.
So another race weekend.
Race 5 Den Helder
Again this was an astro turf track.
The track is originally an big-scale track
so there were no jumps and also no pitlane.
It is a track with a lot of very tight
corners (180dgr.)so a good off-power steer is very important..
We went to Den Helder on Saturday so we were
able to do some hours of practice.
During practice I had the same problem with
my receiver as I had in warbeyen.
We did not know then it was the problem of
overheating.
After the race in Warbeyen we went to our
local shop and they told us the problem was most likely an bad receiver
battery pack.
So I bought new ones and used them in Den
Helder.
After getting the same problem I switched to
an "old style" transmitter and receiver with xtals.
First problem solved.
On Sunday the qualifying went very well and
I was able to qualify in the semi final.
Also the semi final was good for me and I
was in the final.
During the final i could keep up with the
rest maybe there were one or two drivers that were to fast for me.
Then I had to face the next problem .
Lately when i am driving for a longer time
(more then 10 minutes) my finger and thom fall a sleep during driving.
I do not feel anything more in those two
fingers.
I have to come in and swing my arm/hand for
a minute or so .
Than I can resume my race but after a 5
minutes the problem comes back.
This means I have to come in maybe 6 times
on a 30 min. final.
You can imagine what that means to the
result for that race.
I think it is about time I go see a doctor
for this problem.
I finished at the fifed place but I think
third place or maybe even second would have been possible.
The car was for my feeling very good and I
liked the set-up very well
Some things I did change are.
300 front shock oil
yellow hong-nor spring front
steering rack rear
ae clutch system with 3 alu shoes and 1.0mm
springs
Groningen 30/31 Aug.
Also an big scale track
Here is a race report of race 6 of the BC .
The race was suppose to be held by REAL 80
in Groningen but a few days before the date there was a call from REAL
80 that the race had to be cancelled.
After some calls the track from MACH-ONE in
Helmond seemed to be the best place to race.
I did some practice on Saturday and did have
no big problems (it is my home track).
The only thing I did change was the anti
squad angle to maximal.
The car was more stable now when braking on
the bumps.
On Sunday I had no problems and qualified
straight into the semi final without a problem.
Also during the semi final the car was good
and lap times were getting faster and faster..
the final started as planned after my first
6 minutes I had to come in for fuel.
After fueling up I drove of and bumped into
an other car that was standing in the pit lane (they were fueling it up
in the pit lane).
After calling some names I resumed my race .
In the same round I last steer and my race
was over.
After inspection of the car is seemed that
my servo arm of the steering servo had come lose.
this is the setup I used this race
FRONT
MIDDLE REAR
camber
-2 -3
toe out
2 in 3
anti sqaud
3 up
kick
up 2 up
hinge
pin 2 down
diff STD 10000 STD
5000 STD 1000
shocks
hong nor super big bore
spring HN
bleu HN bleu
piston 6x 1.3 kyosho
6x1.3 kyosho
shock
oil
700 600
arms
in in
tower middle
middle
steering
rack back
anti roll
bar 3.0
x-ray 3.2 x-ray
caster 16 degr.
clutch 3 alu 1.1 spring
associated
bell
16t
tires pro-line crimefichter
m3 compound
Race 7
This race was planned to be at the track of
MACH-ONE in Helmond so it was another home race for me.
I had a race at our track 2 weeks earlier so
I did not change anything at the setup of my car.
On Saturday late in the afternoon I changed
cars with Jorg Van Leuken for fun.
He is the 2007 champion an will most likely
be the 2008 champion.
He give me a tip of lowering the whole cars
driving high level so I did that.
After this change my car was going much
better it was a huge difference with 2 weeks earlier.
The rest of the weekend I did no changes to
the car.
After qualifying I was in the semi and
bumped into the final.
The final went very well and I finished on
the 4th place .
Unfortunately just outside the prices ..
Race 8
Race 8 was the last race of the season
and traditional takes place at the astro turf track of MVW in Purmerend.
As I told the track of Purmerend is also an
astro turf track so I did no changes in the setup of the car for
Saturday..
After some practice on Saturday I felt I
needed a bid more off power steer .
I changed the caster angle back to 14
degrees.
Also I did change the anti squad back to 2
up i.o. 3 up.
On Sunday I had one good qualifying head
that was enough for a semi final.
I bumped into the final without a problem
The start of the final was very good and I
started at place 3 .
The first part of the final I drove well and
hold my place very well.
The second part of the final were not so
good from me I made a mistake .
I lost concentration and made mistake after
mistake ending at place 6 in this final.
In the overall standings I ended at place 4
.
Not bad if I look back with the trouble I
had this season.
The problem with my sleeping finger has cost
me a lot of points .
I can say I like the car very much and had
no big problems wit it.
There was some wear at some of the parts but
this is not more than I had with my other cars.
I have NOT broken anything in a crash no
hubs, arms or anything else.
The only thing I had problems with are the
King-Headz A-B-C-D plates they wear a lot and do not have the lifetime I
think they should have..
Al the other King Headz parts I have on the
car do not give any problems.
I like to thank Associated (Richard Saxton and the crew) and Jim from
King Headz for providing the stuff I have drove this 2008 season.
After all I think I had a good season with
the Associated RC8 and I am looking forward of driving it the next 2009
season.
Mark for
TEAM TWF8
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